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NCHSAA RPI Update

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Written by: Coach Jay James
Published: March 22, 2024

Good Afternoon Coaches, 

I hope your seasons are going well and maybe soon this pollen will be gone!  I wanted to ask a question and make a couple comments about the NCHSAA RPI that had been up and running until last week.

I thought it was pretty neat how the RPI showed the statewide rankings in each classification and what each team was ranked no matter their location.  I told Caitlin I really wish the NCHSAA would do two separate RPI rankings, one for the entire state for each clssification and another one that splits it up into east and west for the dual team tennis state playoffs.  I am sure that is something they can do but I am not sure they really want to do that.  What do you think?  Do you think it would be useful to see an RPI ranking for the entire state as the season begins and progresses?  Or are you good with only showing the RPI for the east and west separately? 

And does anyone trust the UTR ratings to be more accurate than you use to?  I know some players UTR's are very accurate and some are very inaccurate.  Are there any plans in the future to base lineup protests on some sort of actual metrics rather than some coaches eye test, or some expert parents opinion, or a coaches decision for one reason or another?  This is my 28th year as a tennis professional, 8th year as a high school coach, have playerd high school, played college, and played professional tournaments back in my younger days!  And it is pretty simple to manipulate the UTR if you know where to place your players and if they don't play tennis tournaments all the time.  Lets say I put my #3 player at #6 and keep him or her there all season and she goes undefeated.  His or her UTR will not be that high because they would be beating mostly UTR 1's and UTR 2's all season.  I have heard this being talked about by several coaches and I just wish there was a good way to measure this not by what random coaches, parents, or players think but actual accurate metrics!

Coach Jay James   

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Is a voluntary tennis ladder ok for off-season use?

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Written by: Chris Lee
Published: October 25, 2023

Hey Coaches,

Pardon my ignorance if this has already been discussed or addressed but I wanted to confirm that there is no issue to have a voluntary tennis ladder for high school tennis players to use during the off-season (especially during dead periods). Since it is voluntary, I don't believe that it is against the rules but it will require me to help set it up so I can't have complete plausible deniability :)

Just wanted to check with those in the know before getting things set up.

Thanks for any information you can provide!

Best,

Chris Lee

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NCHSAA RPI IS A JOKE

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Written by: Coach Jay James
Published: September 28, 2023

Fellow Coaches,

I know that there is NO perfect system that has been created for North Carolina High School Tennis but this NCHSAA RPI system is clearly not any better than the previous dual team seeding systems.  There has to be some sort of input from actual tennis coaches who know what they are looking at when it comes to seeding teams in the dual team state playoffs!  I mean its fine to keep the RPI but let a panel of actual tennis coaches go through and discuss changes that need to made.  Does anyone really believe the 2 time defending 3A state champs are the 9th best team in the East?  If so, we may have one of the strongest high school tennis regions in the country! 

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Is It Time for No-ad Scoring?

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Written by: Kevin Kirk
Published: August 08, 2023

No-ad scoring has been a part of tennis for long time now. I'm not sure what it's original purpose was, other than to keep matches from going on forever. Now, it's used in the competitions I'm involved in when it's important to keep lots of matches progressing at the same rate. But it's certainly become a standard format even when time isn't an issue. All of the pro doubles tournaments use it (as well as the 10 point matchbreaker instead of a third set). It's the scoring system for college matches. And I think it's high time that we adopt it for high school tennis as well. It's already an option if both coaches agree. In the matches we've played that way, it has made little (probably no) difference in the outcome of the match or any individual line. I will continue to ask opponents if they'd like to use it, but I'd like to see it become the standard.

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